The 80/20 Reality of Bipolar Relationships: Stability, Chaos, and What Partners Actually Live
In this podcast, we pull back the curtain on the turbulent reality of loving someone through Bipolar I with psychosis, exploring the unique dynamic where 10 to 20% of the relationship is defined by pure, unadulterated chaos. While the majority of your time together might be built on deep connection and stability, we dive into those high-stakes chapters of mania and breaks from reality that can suddenly upend your world. Through raw storytelling and shared experiences, we discuss how to navigate the intensity of these episodes, the exhaustion of the "waiting for the shoe to drop" mentality, and how to preserve your own sanity when the person you love becomes a stranger.
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The bipolar 20% hook, I'm going
to talk about that today because
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quite frankly, if you're
involved with somebody with
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bipolar, that's going to be you.
That certainly was me.
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I'm even saying maybe 10% hook
or 20% hook.
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What I mean by that is that 10
to 20% of the time, it's awful.
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It's just, it's just difficult.
You're walking on egg shells.
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You're trying to figure out what
they're doing while they're
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doing it, why they're doing it.
So that means 80 to 90% of the
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time, it's a normal
relationship.
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My goodness, why in the hell
can't that work?
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At least that's my thought
process.
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Once again, bipolar is a
spectrum.
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Everybody's different.
I'm speaking from my experience,
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but my experience was 10 to 20%
of the time it was pure chaos,
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but 80% of the time it was
relatively good.
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Obviously, there were great
times with my wife.
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So it's so confusing.
However, the negative part, the
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10 to 20%, that can be at least
for me, gut wrenching because
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you're dealing with somebody
that is literally does do not
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have brakes on their empathy or
their ability to deal with
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people.
And what I mean by that is that
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the person, OK, let's say you
and I are talking to each other,
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we're good friends and we start
going out with a girl and I
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think she terrible.
She's just awful.
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I don't think she's good for
you.
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I don't want to do all those
things.
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Well, I might say, you know,
buddy, you might want to
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consider this woman, whatever
and leave it at that.
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A bipolar person doesn't
sometimes not all, doesn't have
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the ability to filter things.
It's either or so they may look
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at a friend and say you're
stupid to dealing with that
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person because of this, this and
this and blah, blah, blah, blah,
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blah, and super negative.
Or they're super positive
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because they don't have brakes
on their emotional capabilities
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like you and I do.
Be aware of that.
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And so you know, dealing with
bipolar people, at least dealing
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with mine, that was the one of
the hardest things for me to do
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when I left.
And that's why I went literally
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crazy myself because she was
great a lot of the times.
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She was fun, she was exciting.
We had all kinds of fun trip to
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Vegas and to South America and
to China and it was awesome.
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But those I look back and that
horrendous fights that would
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happen, I mean like fights that
should be that big a deal turned
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into monumental horrible things
because they can't control their
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emotions.
That's what you need to realize.
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Yes, they do what's called
masking.
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If you don't know what masking
is, you need to look it up.
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I'll make a podcast about just
that.
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But masking generally is they
use a lot of brain power to
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overcome the racing thoughts and
the bad thoughts that they have
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in their mind.
They do that outside the home
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when they come back to the home,
they can't do that all the time.
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So they feel better to let down
their guard when they get home.
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So therefore, a lot of times of
partners in the house get
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hammered, but everybody else
doesn't ever see it ever.
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So when you try to talk to
somebody about it, and if you
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live this, you know what I'm
saying, try to talk to somebody,
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a friend about this, they'll
never understand it.
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They'll say no way in hell.
That person's the nicest person
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I've ever seen in my life.
They've never treated me bad.
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You're telling me that they're
screaming and yelling and
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kicking you out of the house and
throwing things at you and all
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of these things.
Obviously you must be a bad
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person.
It's not them.
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It's a it's just so difficult
and just realized that 10 or
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20%, I mean, mine threw me out
in the middle of the highway in
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the middle of nowhere twice, OK,
because of what they thought
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happened, which didn't.
That's a reality.
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I mean, those kind of things
create what's called a trauma
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bond.
If you don't know what that is
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or you've not studied it, you'd
better you right now need to go
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and find out what a trauma bond
really is.
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Don't just think, Oh well, it's
I'm bonded.
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No, it's extremely difficult.
Many people have likened A
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trauma bond to being hooked on
heroin.
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All right, that's serious.
If you're hooked on heroin, I
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guess I've never been hooked on
it, but you have to it.
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It's extremely difficult to get
away from because when you've
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been immense chaos and then
they're really nice and then
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chaos even randomly, let's say
over six month period, you've
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had a month of absolute chaos,
but five months of good.
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That one month of chaos a lot of
times won't override the five
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months of good, but with a
trauma bond, you're still
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waiting for the good person to
show up.
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But it's absolutely tearing you
apart if you're living it.
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You know what I'm talking about
because I lived it.
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It's the worst feeling in the
history of the world for me.
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And dealing, dealing with a
bipolar person.
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I loved her more than I've ever
loved anybody in my life.
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And I do believe it's because of
the trauma bond, the push pull,
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the push pull that never seems
to go away.
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And as they get older, yes, it
gets worse.
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If they're unmedicated or under
medicated, the older they get
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the worse it gets.
Period.
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That's not open for discussion.
Don't think for a minute that
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yours is going to get better.
If they're not going to a
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psychiatrist every month, going
to a therapist every month.
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You're involved with those and
you have a power of attorney to
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make them take their medicine if
they stop because once again, if
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you haven't heard this before,
in literally two or three days
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of not taking their medicine,
they can slip into mania.
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Once it slips into a mania,
they're not going to listen to
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you.
They're not going to do what you
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tell them.
They're going to do whatever
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they want and probably blow up
their life or at least create
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living hell for you on earth.
Be well aware, the 80% I still
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look back on my relationship,
the absolute fun, crazy fun
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times we had together over 10
years.
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It was awesome and it was the
most chaotic, spine tingling
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chaos I've ever lived.
I mean come on when they're
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screaming at yelling at you.
I've said this before in my
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wheelchair, remember I got
paralysed 2 years ago in my
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wheelchair.
I'm living in in the living room
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and she's screaming at yelling
at me to get out of the house.
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Leave, leave, leave, leave.
You think I'd attacked her or
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something?
I can't move.
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Anyway, bottom line is I was, I
was just incredibly difficult to
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live there with her like this.
But the trauma bond keeps you
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there and then you will find
yourself.
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If you're living this right now,
do yourself a favor.
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Look over the last two or three
years, what is your personality
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or how's your personality
changed over the last two or
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three years?
Are you still happy with your
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friends?
Are you still going out with
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your friends having a good time?
Or are you basically trying to
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monitor and manage their
illness?
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Has your life been taken over by
this?
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If it has, go talk to a
therapist that knows about
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bipolar.
If a therapist doesn't know
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about bipolar, do not deal with
them because bipolar is such a
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huge deal.
Believe me, if you sit down in
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front of a psychiatrist or a
therapist that's not familiar
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with us, the person with bipolar
will merely mask and they'll be
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perfect.
I can't tell you how many
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stories I read where the couple
was fighting horrendously.
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The bipolar person threatens the
other person or does something
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crazy against them.
They call the police.
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The police show up and the
bipolar person's perfect.
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They're absolutely calm,
regulated, normal and the cops
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can't do anything.
That's bipolar.
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Be very careful of these things.
That 10 to 20% for me at least
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and what I've read over the last
10 months since I'm leaving.
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It happens.
It can be so catastrophic and
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destroys yourself esteem,
destroys yourself confidence
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because they're going to
gaslight you and controlled you
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because for them to admit that
they've got a problem destroys
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them completely.
So everything's going to be,
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guess what, your fault.
Everything that's gone wrong is
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going to be your fault.
They won't apologize.
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They won't be accountable.
If yours does, that's a huge
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plus.
That means they're somewhat self
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aware, but be aware of all of
this stuff.
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That 10 to 20% can literally
destroy you.
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God bless everybody.
Thank you.
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Bye.