Bipolar Discard Warning Signs: How to Know When It's Coming (A Partner's Guide)
If you're living with or loving someone with bipolar disorder, one of the most devastating experiences you may face is the bipolar discard — when your partner suddenly ends the relationship, often with no warning, no closure, and no apparent remorse. But is it really without warning?
In this episode of The Other Side of Bipolar, we look at the discard from the partner's perspective — the subtle and not-so-subtle signs that something is shifting before the bottom drops out. From emotional withdrawal and sudden blame-shifting to rewriting relationship history and the silent treatment that comes out of nowhere, these red flags often appear weeks before the discard itself.
Whether you've already been through a bipolar discard and are trying to make sense of it, or you're in a relationship right now and something feels off, this episode is for you. Understanding the warning signs doesn't just give you time to prepare — it gives you the clarity to stop blaming yourself.
Topics covered:
What a bipolar discard actually is and why it happens
The behavioral warning signs partners report seeing in advance
How manic episodes and mixed states fuel the discard pattern
Why the person with bipolar often rewrites history and projects blame
What you can do — and what you can't — when you see it coming
The Other Side of Bipolar is the podcast that centers the partner and caregiver experience. You are not alone.
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1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,480 Hello everybody. Today I want to talk about 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:07,920 trying to understand or see the discard that may be coming. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:13,400 That's a discard from your bipolar person because sometimes 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,440 it does happen immediately, but most of the time they're 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,240 certainly signals. One of the biggest, biggest 6 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:24,000 signals is that they start withdrawing, which is normal in 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,280 any relationship. They start drawing away from 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,280 you. But the reasons why they do it 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:33,280 are immensely different. A person that's bipolar will, at 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:37,400 least in my experience with my wife, it took years, quite 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,120 frankly, the years that I saw it coming because it's so 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,800 confusing, as you can probably understand, because one minute 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,800 they're loving and nice and the next minute they're devaluing 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,120 you. I saw that over the last couple 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,960 of years. I started noticing instead of me 16 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,760 being a hero, it was me being devalued. 17 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Like when I would work out, she'd say it doesn't make any 18 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,120 sense. When I would try to better 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,760 myself, she didn't want me to, even though if you asked her, 20 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:10,600 she would probably say, yes, of course I want my husband to get 21 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,240 better. But at the same time, I could 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,000 see where she didn't care if I got better. 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,800 So that was the interesting thing, mean interesting thing 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,000 for me to look back on over these years that I would the 10 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,120 years I was with her. I mean, one time at the gym I 26 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,760 was doing circuit training, which is one of the most 27 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,640 difficult parts because you keep your cardiovascular system and 28 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,280 blood pulse rate high and doing weights at the same time. 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,800 She looked at me and told me that doesn't make any sense. 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,480 Why are you doing that? It doesn't make any sense. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Even the manager of the gym said it doesn't make any sense. 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Now whether that's true what the manager said or not, you would 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,920 think a wife would be happy that her husband is sweating like a 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,760 pig and working his ass off at the gym, but she wasn't. 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:07,720 Now why is the big question? Because the number one thing for 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,000 a bipolar worse person in my opinion is they don't want you 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,200 to leave. They want you to be dependent on 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,480 them. They want you to never be able 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,560 to be independent enough to walk away from them. 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,920 That's all that matters. They're controlling because of 41 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:30,400 that. Look at your situation with your 42 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:36,000 bipolar spouse and start seeing the reality of this stuff that 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 happened. It happened to me again. 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,160 Not every bipolar person is the same, definitely. 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,920 However many of them are. They control you because they 46 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:50,240 don't want to lose you. If you bring up something that 47 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,520 bothers you, they don't want to hear about it most of the time. 48 00:02:53,920 --> 00:02:57,120 They're more interested in how they feel and how you make them 49 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,720 feel. So I just wanted to briefly get 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,520 on here because this is an important one because the 51 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,520 discard is so destabilizing for you. 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,880 I have read stories of people, 1520, thirty years of a happy 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,600 marriage, and all of a sudden there's a life stressor, like 54 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,200 somebody passes away or you move a house or you have a kid or 55 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,960 something happens and they discard you overnight. 56 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,160 That's the scariest part. I didn't get that. 57 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,560 In fact, mine, who was a woman, she never discarded me. 58 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,560 She didn't. But at the end she did some 59 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,320 horrible things. Extremely disrespectful. 60 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Flirting with guys right in front of me and then telling him 61 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,720 that she was married, all without her wedding ring on. 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,120 That kind of shit. That's me. 63 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:50,880 She doesn't respect me at all. Now in Mania, maybe she didn't, 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,600 maybe she did respect me and normally I don't know. 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,760 I don't think so. The last couple of years have 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:03,160 just whittled away because quite frankly, I don't know about you, 67 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,600 but when you go through so many ups and downs with people like 68 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,400 this and so much inconsistency, you lose disrespect for them. 69 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,920 You lose any kind of motivation to be romantic or to really take 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,440 care of them because they 'cause you so much pain and they pick 71 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,960 up on that. So that's somewhat normal. 72 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,280 We can't say they're abnormal because they get resentful too. 73 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,000 But you know when your partner yells and screams at you for 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:36,120 stupid stuff or put you in a three day, you know, no contact, 75 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,960 you eventually get tired of this stuff. 76 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,560 I mean it destroys your own self because they don't want you 77 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,640 happy. They want you controlled so they 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,480 know you won't leave. That's very prophetic, but it's 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,920 absolutely the truth. Understand what you're living 80 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,080 with. If you're a young person, 'cause 81 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,320 I'm in my mid 60s. If you're a young person trying 82 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,040 to figure out bipolar, sorry, get out. 83 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:07,840 You will be miserable. And don't get me wrong, there's 84 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,960 many great marriages to bipolar people. 85 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,200 However, I'll tell you specifically what it takes. 86 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,800 The bipolar person has to be self aware. 87 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,680 They have to know they have a problem, they have to know that 88 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,960 they have to do things on a daily basis to get better, and 89 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,920 they have to know how to apologize and change their ways. 90 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,320 If they don't, you are in for a horrible experience. 91 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,720 I'm so sorry, but it's the truth. 92 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:41,200 They will see your weakness as the ability for them to do 93 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,680 whatever they want. Like for the cheating or 94 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,600 emotional cheating. If you don't leave them when 95 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,360 they emotional cheat the first time they're in their minds, 96 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,800 they go oh that felt great. It was so valetating. 97 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,880 I didn't do anything. I didn't have sex with the 98 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,520 person, and I know I really hurt my significant other, but 99 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,000 they're OK with it, so I can do it again. 100 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760 That's the way they think. Sorry. 101 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,840 That is what your future is going to be. 102 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,920 You have to leave. You have to sit them down and 103 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,280 say if you ever do that crap again and you ever get off your 104 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,040 meds again, if you don't go to your psychiatrist as you're 105 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,920 supposed to, then I'm leaving and they're going to go. 106 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 In their mind. Yeah, that's what they say. 107 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,040 Yeah, whatever. But if it happens again and you 108 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,000 literally don't talk to them and you walk out the door, that's 109 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,480 possible. But you got to stay away. 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,600 And just because you walk out doesn't mean they're going to 111 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,680 come back to you. That's not what I'm saying. 112 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 I'm saying for your own sanity, you better do these things. 113 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,160 It's rock solid on psychiatry and experience here, folks. 114 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,120 You have to be able to walk away if you want to try to make it 115 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,000 work again. If you walk out, that doesn't 116 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,320 mean they're going to chase you, but a lot of times they do. 117 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,320 But a lot of times they don't. That's why this thing's insane. 118 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,080 If they're not those things that I talked about before, you have 119 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,240 to get out because the cheating will continue. 120 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,120 The emotional affairs are very exciting to them and they think 121 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,000 in their mind like mine did. Oh, I didn't have anything. 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,440 I we didn't do anything. Well, number one, I wasn't there 123 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,600 for the three months she had an emotional affair with a guy at 124 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,240 the gym, him talking shit about his current wife to my wife. 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:30,320 She totally, totally disrespected me because when I 126 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,040 told her I was hurting emotionally because of this and 127 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,960 it was so difficult for me because she wouldn't give up 128 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,880 that relationship, she said, oh it's your problem, not mine. 129 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,400 A true partner in a relationship does not want to hurt their 130 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,640 partner. That's just the truth. 131 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,920 These people can be very self-centered, very egotistical, 132 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,480 very hyper sexual. At the same time you're setting 133 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,960 yourself up for diseases and for heartbreak if you sit through 134 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,080 one of these things. I did. 135 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,880 The emotional affair was four years ago. 136 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,560 I tried to get away but I couldn't financially. 137 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,280 Then I finally could get away financially when she was openly 138 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,760 flirting with men in front of me without a wedding ring on. 139 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Grow up people, get you a good one. 140 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,520 These people can be wonderful partners, don't get me wrong, 141 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,280 but they must fulfill everything I talked about. 142 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,400 If they don't you're, you're setting yourself for big 143 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,000 problems. Take care, love to everybody. 144 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,640 Bye.
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